Pappy Van Winkle - The Price - Pursuit of Pappy Van Winkle (2024)

Pappy Van Winkle is damn good bourbon -- but...is it worth what it cost?

Here's what Walker Percy, great writer and bourbon lover, had totosay about the relationship between the price of bourbon and itstaste -- and -- umh..."psychological effect" in his essay, "Bourbon Neat."

"I can hardly tell one Bourbon from another, unless the other is very bad.Some bad Boubons are even more memorable than good ones. For example, Ican recall being broke with some friends in Tennessee and deciding to have a party and being able to afford only two-fifths of a $1.75 Bourbon calledTwo Natural, whose label showed dice coming up 5 and 2. Its taste wasmemorable. The psychological effect was also notable. After knocking backtwo or three shots over a period of half an hour, the three male drinkerslooked at each other and said in a single voice: 'Where are the women?'I have not been able to locate this remarkable Bourbon since."

Obviously if you're on a quest for Pappy Van Winkle you're not looking for the cheap, woman-enhancing rotgut that Percy is referring to. So let's talk about bourbon on a champagne budget.

Pappy Van Winkle Suggested Retail Price

First, let's review the suggested retail -- which can be had if you get lucky or at least call a few places and get on a waiting list, camp out for days in a liquor store parking lot, or win the Pappy Van Winkle lottery. Then, we'll discussthe secondary market or the bourbon underbelly. Where instead of appreciating bourbon for what it is, "entrepreneurial types" are trying to make a quick buck on a high-demand commodity.

Hell, it is as old as America -- but I still hate those (you) sons of bitches. (Not really, but you sure make it harder for the rest of us -- who just want to find and partake of one of the bestbourbons around.)

Pappy Van Winkle already costs a pretty penny, but on the secondary market the price is flat out crazy.

Here is a breakdown of the suggested retail price forPappy Van Winkle bourbon and rye.

  • $39.99 – Old Rip Van Winkle Handmade Bourbon 10 Year Old 107 proof

  • $54.99 – Van Winkle Special Reserve Bourbon 12 Year Old

  • $69.99 – Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye Whiskey 13 Year Old

  • $79.99 - Pappy Van Winkle’s Family Reserve Bourbon 15 Year Old

  • $129.99 – Pappy Van Winkle’s Family Reserve Bourbon 20 Year Old

  • $249.99 – Pappy Van Winkle’s Family Reserve Bourbon 23 Year Old

I have purchased both the 12 year and 20 year and laid down $60 something and $136.99 respectively -- after adding in tax.

The Pappy Van Winkle Price in the Secondary Market

Here's a sampling ofthe price of Pappy Van Winkle on the secondary market. These were found on the liquorlist.com. (Send me a check for the free ad boys.)

On the site, Pappy Van Winkle 23 year ran from $1,000 to $2,560, Pappy Van Winkle 20 year ranged from $600 to $2000, and the 15 year was pricedfrom $500 to $800. These are the most sought after ofthe Van Winkles.

In this case, the 23 year is marked up anywhere from 400%to 1,000%, the 20 from 465% to over 1538%, and the 15 from 750% to 1000%.

Is Pappy Van Winkle Worth 10 Times or More of Its Retail Price?

Just because someone overpays for a commodity like a bourbon, doesn't mean it's worth it. We are definitely in some kind of mania -- like tulips or dot coms where people have set aside rationality for a season and bought into the idea that something is worth a lot more than its normal price or value.

However in this case, the bigger fool theory does not hold since most buyers of Pappy are not buying it to get rich later, but to drink it now. Of course, the ones who buy it to resell are causing the already low supply to dry up even more for the "regular" bourbon lover who just wants to taste the so called best bourbon in the world.

Now bourbon lovers with money to burn may not have a problem shelling out hundreds or thousands of dollars for a bottle of Pappy, but I for one would rather spend my time and money on the almost as good bourbons that are findable at their retail price. Asgood as Pappy Van Winkle is, it is not in a class by itself, untouchable by any other well-madebourbons.

Of course, I might feel differently -- and justify the over-the-top purchase if I'd never found it and wanted to know what all the hype was about. So I can't begrudge anyone who overpays to experience Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon for the first time.

Aftertasting the 20 year, I can honestly say I hope I score the 15 or 23 this year -- but at its "normal" not "overhyped" price.

Eventually Everyone Who Wants Some Will GetIt

The Pappy that is distilling and aging today will be ready for you to consume in 15, 20 or 23 years -- or less -- and the craze will likely have died down a bit. Most folks will have moved onto the next big thing -- maybe some kind of ice-cream flavored vodka or some other marketing influenced monstrosity -- and you can buy all the bourbon, and Pappy Van Winkle you can drink.

As Preston Van Winkle (Pappy's great grandson) once said“a lot of people don’t realize we just can’t crank up the still and have more 20-year old bourbon...tomorrow. We’re not making vodka."

AllBourbon and Pappy Van Winkle lovers shouldbe thankful for that.

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FAQs

How do you read Pappy Van Winkle code? ›

Date Codes

A bright flashlight shining though the bottle from the other side will often aid in finding the code. In this example, the K = the bottling line, 225 = the 225th day of the year, 09 = the year bottled, 10:22 = the time bottled in military time.

Why is Pappy 23 so expensive? ›

Pappy's long aging process leads to limited supply

Like many wines, bourbon goes through an extended aging process before it's bottled. By law, a spirit labeled "bourbon" must be aged in oak barrels for at least two years.

Why is it so hard to get Pappy Van Winkle? ›

As Japhe puts it, “You're more likely to spot Elvis at your local liquor store than you are to see Pappy sitting on a shelf at suggested retail value.” Part of the problem is Van Winkle's scarcity: Pappy is aged longer than most bourbons, which makes it difficult for Buffalo Trace to meet skyrocketing demand.

How much should you pay for Pappy Van Winkle? ›

$79.99 – Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Bourbon 15 Year Old. $149.99 – Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Bourbon 20 Year Old. $249.99 – Pappy Van Winkle's Family Reserve Bourbon 23 Year Old.

How many bottles of Pappy 23 are released each year? ›

This makes it incredibly hard to find, and spirits enthusiasts may have to wait decades just to purchase an authentic bottle. The distillery releases approximately 7,000 cases per year, which is only 84,000 bottles.

What is the poor man's Pappy Van Winkle? ›

“Poor Man's Pappy” is a 2:3 blend of Weller 12 yr + Old Weller Antique 107. For a ready to to drink blend of Poor Man's Pappy, pour 2 parts (40%) Weller 12 year and 3 parts (60%) Old Weller Antique 107 into a glass. Give it a swirl and let sit for 5-10 minutes.

Do people sell fake Pappy Van Winkle? ›

A few guys in Kentucky make the best Van Winkle fakes (although some decent ones are also coming out of Japan). These counterfeiters obtain empty, used Pappy bottles, refill them with a cheap substitute, and then reseal them as convincingly as possible.

Does Costco ever get Pappy Van Winkle? ›

Just remember that these whiskeys may not always be a standard feature in Costco stores — and some of them can be extremely hard to find. On occasion, you can find a bottle of ultra-rare Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon on its shelves, at a slightly lower price than it's sold elsewhere.

Which pappy is the rarest? ›

The biggest prize of the bunch is undoubtedly a very special bottling of Pappy Van Winkle 23 Year Old. This particular label of Kentucky straight bourbon needs no introduction being that it's the most collectible American whiskey on the planet.

How to get pappy at msrp? ›

When it comes to getting a bottle of Pappy at suggested retail (MSRP), a state-run liquor store is your best bet. Though, the keyword here is “lottery.” Look at that image above. Last year there were over 58,000 entries for 4 — four! — bottles of Pappy 23 at ABC Virginia state-run stores.

Is Buffalo Trace the same as Pappy Van Winkle? ›

Recently, the Van Winkles entered into a joint venture with the Buffalo Trace Distillery in Frankfort, KY. All of the Van Winkle's whiskey production now takes place at Buffalo Trace under the same strict guidelines the family has always followed in order to produce a superior quality product.

How should you drink Pappy Van Winkle? ›

The main takeaway: However you enjoy drinking bourbon is the right way to drink bourbon—an ice cube, a splash of water, or neat. (It's been said that if you like your Pappy Van Winkle with co*ke, do it—but your friends at Men's Journal strongly discourage it.)

How to authenticate a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle? ›

As mentioned above, Pappy Van Winkle 23 has handwritten bottle numbers on the front. Each bottle's number is unique.

How to find bottling date? ›

Most bottle manufacturers molded the year into the glass at the bottom of the bottle in 2-digit format. You'll often find it in the lower right portion when looking at the bottom (some dates are much easier to distinguish than others). This will usually tell you–within a year or two–when the whiskey was bottled.

How do you read a whiskey label? ›

HOW TO READ A WHISKY LABEL
  1. DISTILLERY NAME. There are over 100 distilleries operating in Scotland and most produce an official distillery bottling. ...
  2. WOOD TYPE. Scotch whisky must be matured in oak casks for a minimum of three years. ...
  3. AGE OR VINTAGE. ...
  4. WHISKY REGION AND WHISKY TYPE. ...
  5. VOLUME. ...
  6. ALCOHOL BY VOLUME (ABV)

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